While I was watching the news last night, I recalled how Iraq looked almost the same fifteen years ago. When the gulf war in 1991 started, we fled to Karbala to stay in the house of my mother's cousin. Baghdad was falling apart by the heavy bombings the Coalition forces had launched as a response to Saddam's invasion to Kuwait. I remember that day and how my father drove the car all the way to Karbala while my mother kept reading verses from Quran. I was 10 years-old at the time, but I remember every single moment we went through then.
In the wake of the 1991 Gulf War that drove Iraqi troops out of Kuwait and on March 1st, Karbala was strangely quiet. The war was over as we heard on the BBC which we used to listen to by a small radio that works on two double A batteries. We made the decision, we should go back to Baghdad and we did. Of course, nothing in Baghdad was left but destruction: no water, no electricity and no food. Until now I can't imagine we managed to live and restore our life until 2003.
The news came as fast as thunder. Uprising occurred in Iraq after the seize fire was announced. We were stunned. Who dares to get rid of Saddam? What a huge challenge! Who were they and how did they manage to do so? To discover that, it wasn't that difficult. They were the Kurds in the north and the Shiites in the south. Baghdad remained as it is because Saddam's forces were in complete control of it despite the complete destruction of the infrastructure.
On March 5th, I recalled my cousin coming to our house beating on his head. He had a serious break down. " Khalu [my uncle] They killed him," he said to my father with tears washing his face of my other cousin. Thamir, who was killed was a thirty-five year-old University Professor. He was assigned by the government to teach in Erbil in northern Iraq. One of the government's condition at that time to be accepted as a University professor was to join the Baath Party and that's what Thamir did. He did not know this will be the cause of his death.
Peshmerga, I recall my other cousin saying, killed him just because he was a Baathist. "They did not understand he had to join the Baath Party," he said. Then I remembered how Thamir's wife and her two babies came from Erbil to Baghdad after he was killed. Iman, the wife was putting on torn black clothes, bare foot carrying one of her babies on her shoulder and walking with her other baby all the way to my aunt's house. The moment she arrived in the house, she fainted at the main gate. Women and men ran towards her. She did not wake up until they threw water at her face several times. Weeping and wailing for the loss of her beloved husband, she narrated what happened. I was looking in daze. I didn't understand what was really going on.
"Where is your husband," she recalled the Peshmerga saying. "He is not here," she said and of course, she was lying because she felt they came to kill him. They did not believe her and broke into the house and pulled Thamir from the room he was hiding in. "No, No, please. He is a father of two babies," she pleaded to them. They did'nt care. Instead of kidnapping him, they killed him in front of her and the two children. "They cut him into pieces in front of me," I recall her saying.
Bad news was coming like bullets in our chests day after day. While we were in the funeral of Thamir, My mother's cousin came from Karbala to Baghdad. Crying, his wife hugged my mother and said, "They broke into our house and burned it down. We are not even Baathists. Why did they do that?"
We did not know what to do. Our fate was ambiguous as it is right now. Would we flee? Where to? All Iraq was burning. We had to sit and wait for the day we die or see others die.
We all wanted to get rid of Saddam and the start of the uprising was moving in the right road. But when the Badrists, supported by Iran and the Kurds supported by US and Britain started to do it randomly, the uprising started to be different. It moved away from its main aim in fighting Saddam. The revolutionaries preferred to kill all the Baathists even though some of them were forced to join the party. Saddam, who was the most powerful dictator in the modern history, seized the opportunity to kill the Shiites and the Kurds whom he and his party oppressed for decades. It was his chance to do so. He ordered his men to use bulldozers and bury the revolutionaries and their families alive. No mercy was ordered. All should be dead and that's what exactly happened except for the Iraqi Kurdish areas as they were supported by the US and Britain.
Hundreds of thousands of Shiite families were missing. Their remains were finally found after the dictator's fall in 2003. Even children with their dolls were found buried alive in hundreds of mass graves.
In my own point of view, the discovery of these remains in the mass graves and the 35-years oppression to a specific sect and ethnicity, problems still exist. The Badrists, who came back from Iran after failing in ousting a strong regime, came back with full hatred to the Baathists. This time, they were not random. They were under a militia and a political party that paved the road to them to continue their plan in getting rid of the Baathists. I heard from people in contact with the Badrists that this time, they have lists of Baathists names. They started in 2003 in killing them in allover the country and the list has not been emptied yet. It still has as many numbers as they expected. Some senior Baathists were able to flee the country and went to another Baathist country, Syria or maybe to Jordan.
These men, the Badrists, are in power now and they are using the same way Saddam did in dealing with the people. "If you are against me, you are my enemy," is the slogan they raised for almost three years after the fall of the first dictator. No one can criticize them in public and no one is able to stop form their continuous assassinations that reached even non- criminal Baathists now. And oops, I might be killed if anyone of them discovers this post and knows who I am!
Happy Uprising Anniversary!
In the wake of the 1991 Gulf War that drove Iraqi troops out of Kuwait and on March 1st, Karbala was strangely quiet. The war was over as we heard on the BBC which we used to listen to by a small radio that works on two double A batteries. We made the decision, we should go back to Baghdad and we did. Of course, nothing in Baghdad was left but destruction: no water, no electricity and no food. Until now I can't imagine we managed to live and restore our life until 2003.
The news came as fast as thunder. Uprising occurred in Iraq after the seize fire was announced. We were stunned. Who dares to get rid of Saddam? What a huge challenge! Who were they and how did they manage to do so? To discover that, it wasn't that difficult. They were the Kurds in the north and the Shiites in the south. Baghdad remained as it is because Saddam's forces were in complete control of it despite the complete destruction of the infrastructure.
On March 5th, I recalled my cousin coming to our house beating on his head. He had a serious break down. " Khalu [my uncle] They killed him," he said to my father with tears washing his face of my other cousin. Thamir, who was killed was a thirty-five year-old University Professor. He was assigned by the government to teach in Erbil in northern Iraq. One of the government's condition at that time to be accepted as a University professor was to join the Baath Party and that's what Thamir did. He did not know this will be the cause of his death.
Peshmerga, I recall my other cousin saying, killed him just because he was a Baathist. "They did not understand he had to join the Baath Party," he said. Then I remembered how Thamir's wife and her two babies came from Erbil to Baghdad after he was killed. Iman, the wife was putting on torn black clothes, bare foot carrying one of her babies on her shoulder and walking with her other baby all the way to my aunt's house. The moment she arrived in the house, she fainted at the main gate. Women and men ran towards her. She did not wake up until they threw water at her face several times. Weeping and wailing for the loss of her beloved husband, she narrated what happened. I was looking in daze. I didn't understand what was really going on.
"Where is your husband," she recalled the Peshmerga saying. "He is not here," she said and of course, she was lying because she felt they came to kill him. They did not believe her and broke into the house and pulled Thamir from the room he was hiding in. "No, No, please. He is a father of two babies," she pleaded to them. They did'nt care. Instead of kidnapping him, they killed him in front of her and the two children. "They cut him into pieces in front of me," I recall her saying.
Bad news was coming like bullets in our chests day after day. While we were in the funeral of Thamir, My mother's cousin came from Karbala to Baghdad. Crying, his wife hugged my mother and said, "They broke into our house and burned it down. We are not even Baathists. Why did they do that?"
We did not know what to do. Our fate was ambiguous as it is right now. Would we flee? Where to? All Iraq was burning. We had to sit and wait for the day we die or see others die.
We all wanted to get rid of Saddam and the start of the uprising was moving in the right road. But when the Badrists, supported by Iran and the Kurds supported by US and Britain started to do it randomly, the uprising started to be different. It moved away from its main aim in fighting Saddam. The revolutionaries preferred to kill all the Baathists even though some of them were forced to join the party. Saddam, who was the most powerful dictator in the modern history, seized the opportunity to kill the Shiites and the Kurds whom he and his party oppressed for decades. It was his chance to do so. He ordered his men to use bulldozers and bury the revolutionaries and their families alive. No mercy was ordered. All should be dead and that's what exactly happened except for the Iraqi Kurdish areas as they were supported by the US and Britain.
Hundreds of thousands of Shiite families were missing. Their remains were finally found after the dictator's fall in 2003. Even children with their dolls were found buried alive in hundreds of mass graves.
In my own point of view, the discovery of these remains in the mass graves and the 35-years oppression to a specific sect and ethnicity, problems still exist. The Badrists, who came back from Iran after failing in ousting a strong regime, came back with full hatred to the Baathists. This time, they were not random. They were under a militia and a political party that paved the road to them to continue their plan in getting rid of the Baathists. I heard from people in contact with the Badrists that this time, they have lists of Baathists names. They started in 2003 in killing them in allover the country and the list has not been emptied yet. It still has as many numbers as they expected. Some senior Baathists were able to flee the country and went to another Baathist country, Syria or maybe to Jordan.
These men, the Badrists, are in power now and they are using the same way Saddam did in dealing with the people. "If you are against me, you are my enemy," is the slogan they raised for almost three years after the fall of the first dictator. No one can criticize them in public and no one is able to stop form their continuous assassinations that reached even non- criminal Baathists now. And oops, I might be killed if anyone of them discovers this post and knows who I am!
Happy Uprising Anniversary!


34 Comments:
Aghati, what you wrote was beautiful and yet painful.
Your last paragraph says it all...if those replacing Saddam are themselves Saddam then Iraqis have learned nothing.
I pray for your safety in this modern Iraq of "democracy" and "liberation".
No one is safe, am afraid.
Keep well.
Your fan abroad.
TAI
Dawn prayers.
I was thinking yesterday about Sura Zilzal
"And the country shall rid itself of the burdens that suppress her, When men shall say: 'What has become of her?' The shall she divulge her tales for thy Lord will inspire her! Then shall men come forth in droveds to be shown their deeds!"
Naturally when I read this I was reminded of the Book of Revelations in the Bible: “Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and hurled it on the earth; there came peals of thunder, rumblings, flashes of lightning and an earthquake. Then the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared to sound them. The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down upon the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all of the green grass was burned up." Revelations 8:5-7
This was described in the church, as I dimly recall as marking the end of the world, when Christ would appear again. But now from reading the Treasure of Bagdad's blogs , I believe that witnessing even a portion of the things described, is like the end of existence. From that time, the survivors feel forever changed, that the world isn't and never can be the same again.
Spiritually and mentally. as you probably can guess, I grew up a spoiled American. I witnessed no death, but actually the potential for violent death was all around me. I witnessed no violent crime, but while living in a transition area of Los Angeles crime was all around us. Nothing, (since I didn't go to Vietnam, etc.) can compare with what Treasure of Bagdad has posted. If we can believe Treasure, then we can believe all the silent ones who didn't/don't have English blogs in Chechnya, in Bosnia, in Rwanda, in Sudan, (and places in the future). These are sites of physical and spiritual devestations. The Qur'an and the Bible describe both of these situations. All these holy books agree that spiritual suffering IS the worst. You can, if you understand how, transcend the physical plane, you can transform the PHYSICAL/PSCYHOLOGICAL suffering you are experiencing into something completely different. However regarding spiritual suffering. The Bible and the Qur'an says that spiritual suffering leads to doubt, and doubt leads to hopelessness, and this despair can last beyond this world into the next world(s). If I were to try to comfort my beloved cousin after she saw her husband hacked to pieces, at this moment, I have almost no mental or emotional or spiritual resources to guide her, and to continue guiding myself. I do have hope. I have hope that we would go on trying to contribute to the community around us. Life always, always, so I am learning to believe, overcomes death. It is self-indulgent in the worst possible way to believe winter is never followed by spring.
i was worried about you this week. iraq has traded one tyrant for another and this is george bush`s gift of freedom to the iraqi people...i`m not sure if we will ever be able to repair the damage we have done. i doubt in my life time but maybe in yours..you are the voice of the new iraq that someday will see peace..thank you
Thank you so much for this post.
Some like rchsod may not understand but I think and hope you do. You have been given a gift. Not of freedom or peace but a chance for freedom and peace.
These things are not free and they can not be given to you. They are only gained through a terrible price of blood and sacrifice. I know you love your country and I know you are fighting for your country's peace and freedom.
Please do not let the evil acts committed by some lessen your conviction. If you do you will end up with neither peace nor freedom and all the blood that Iraqi's, Americans, and others have shed will be in vain.
Submitting to oppression and extremists will not end your pain it will only guarantee the continuance of it. Do not let the temptation of temporary safety fool you.
More people need to read your blog and understand the price you have paid are paying for this. I am doing everything I can to help people find your blog
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Off topic: But I would like to know how is it that many Iraqis seem to own guns. Has it been a tradition for people to keep guns at home?
When did this trend start?
“ […] freedom and peace […] are not free and they can not be given to you. They are only gained through a terrible price of blood and sacrifice.”
Therefore, you MUST pay the price for them. Blood must flow like a river; people must die in their thousands and tens of thousands. Corpses must line the streets. ONLY once your country is destroyed, wrecked, ruined, and the people you love are dead … THEN will you truly be able to appreciate ‘freedom, peace and democracy’.
God forbid that any slower, less dramatic or safer method might achieve ‘freedom and peace’.
What I say is: all these people talking about “paying the price for freedom” are talking cheap talk until their own family and country are being destroyed for it. I suspect their attitude would change if their own cities lay in ruins.
Cheap talk is what it is … and the sad thing is some people believe it.
Right now, this minute, would be a good time for Iraqis to stop killing each other and seeking revenge. It is time to forgive those who killed and tortured your relatives.
Dawn prayers.
Sura Nasr(110): When there comes the aid of Allah, and the gates fly open, Thou wilt see men entering the Faith in throngs: Therefore, strive on at the bidding of thy Lord, and show them grace; Verily, He is the great Forebearer!"
and in the Bible, there is this:
Luke 12:42-46
The Lord answered, "Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time? It will be good for that servant whom the master finds doing so when he returns. I tell you the truth, he will put him in charge of all his possesions. But supppose the servant says to himself, 'My master is taking a long time in coming,' and then he begins to beat the menservants and womenservants and to eat and drink and get drunk. The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers."
Both of these selections are talking about the future recognition of the Representative of God. In the case of the Qur'an it uses the words "the Faith" and in the Bible, it is a one-to-one unexpected surprise. Yet each person can see him/herself in the position of the faithful and wise manager. "The Faith" is not called Shia, or Sunni, or Sufi, etc. only Faith. and the "the master" as many pastors like to refer to the Christ, is not identified here as Him. "The master" could be "Allah the Rahman the Rahim". And "the throngs" may have already entered "the Faith" so that the divisions which we see in the Faith of Muhammad now could be in the time after the gates have been open for a long time.
So what am I saying?
1) The Qur'an and the Bible are not in disagreement with one another. They are probably in harmony.
2) They are both concerned with the education of mankind to know the purposes of the Creator.
3) They both are dealing with different aspects of the gradual maturation of human civilization.
This gradual maturation has a sequence. The "master and the servants" relationship could be at a lower level of social development than the entry into the city gates by throngs. The city is a social structure that can be composed of many masters and many servants in a complex relationship of trade, administration, education and the like. Master and servant emphasises what happens inside the home of everyone of the houses in that city. To my mind this seems very complimentary.
Go in Peace!
Same acts, different faces. That's very sad.
There will be no peace until this man is removed from power.
Interview with Iraqi Shiite Leader Muqtada Sadr
Papa Ray
West Texas
USA
[papa ray] “There will be no peace until this man is removed from power. Interview with Iraqi Shiite Leader Muqtada Sadr”
Al Sadr is the main hope for peace between Iraqis. He has been doing a LOT to combat the sectarianism that the US has been trying to split Iraqis up with. As such, I fully expect him to die violently at American hands.
But hey, I’m glad to see you demonstrate the usual respect America has towards democratically elected leaders. It’s hard to hide those stripes, eh?
Morning prayers, still there is time.
from the Bible
"Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. Blessed are those who hunger and thrist for righteousness, for they will be filled. Blessed are the merciful, for thewy will be shown mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. Matthew 5:5-8
And from the Qur'an Sura #103: Asr
"Time itself is witness! Verily, man is bogged in futility: Excepting those who have Faith, and strive Righteously; who set examples of Truth, and are models of Perseverance."
These two quotes, to my mind, show the marvelous complexity of God's creation of man. The dimensions of man's soul for mercy, humility, sincerity, and then his spirit that animates him here in this world setting examples of justice, of truth, and perseverance. Then there is the common touching point here of the Qur'an and the Bible "those who hunger and thirst for righteousness" and "those who have Faith, and strive Righteously". IT takes a combination of perseverance and the other mental powers of man's spirit to succeed. Too often in America those who followed a particular religion it was called "a crutch". As though the weak willed, the ones couldn't stand the competition in the freemarket place, sought comfort in religion to make them feel better for being losers. I wish those people had the chance to read the Qur'an! It brings a further development to the righteous in the building of a just society. It shows the strength and power of believers.
I think a just civilization needs both the capacity to be humble rather than arrogant, and in order to find justice, a hunger and thirst
for righteousness.
Iraq is truly where East is meeting West. I can imagine the Iraqi families in dark houses by candle light repeating, chanting the verses of the Qur'an; while 19 and 20 yr. old "kids" with guns, and sweat trickling down their necks and under their shirts, for their life may be taken! If they have to get out of their humvees to search a house, they are beseeching the same God for mercy that they may live, and repeating the verses of the Bible. East meets West. Merciful God, it doesn't have to be this way! Merciful God, we are doing this to ourselves. This isn't God's will.
Dawn Prayers
From the Qur'an: In the Name of Allah the Rahman the Rahim
Call! In the name of the Lord; thy Lord who creates! Creates man from a lowly cell! Call, for thy Lord is most Gracious! He taught by the pen! Taught man what he would not have otherwise known!" Sura Alaq
And from the Bible:
"The one who cmoes from above is above all; the one who is from the earth belongs to the earth. The one who comes from heaven is above all. He testifies to what he has seen and heard, but no one accepts his testimony. The man who has accepted it has certified that God is truthful." John 3:31-33
It seems to me that from these two quotes of the Holy Books we can see that man learns by the pen through study and he learns by what he is taught by words wrapped in personal experience. Both have a foundation of belief in the truth. This could be scientific truth, or religous truth, both come from the same source. So how can one scientific truth disagree with religous truth. It seems to me that the Qur'an is given to a society and civilization using written knowledge, and the Bible was given to a society of a small literate and mostly illiterate soceity. Both speak of Truth and truth. The Spirit is the product of the man regardless of how he received it. Truth can reside in writing or from the testimony of example from others' actions and words.
In Iraq it is truly sad that we have two sets of believers in Truth destroying one another. Have both side forgotten the purpose of their lives? However it will all eventually work out as a purification process works out the impurities through pain and tests and difficulties, I am trying to believe.
Edoriver I can sense your pain and confusion but it will never stand up to resolution under the repression of a hostile occupier...perhaps if the christian theologists accepted the fact the Muslims will always aspire to their own level of self-awareness and expression, the imposed indoctrination of American democratization would have long since been accepted as a self indulgent imposition doomed to failure and rejection!!
After all look at the ideology of their political masters and you might better understand the corruptness of their crusade!
Dawn prayers.
This morning I would like to completely concentrate on the Sura of Fatihah, which I believe, as my textbook says, is the equal, in beauty and sublimity to anything in the Bible or other Holy Books. The college textbook I have gives 18 line by line previous translations of this Sura. THe oldest is 1649. Personally this sura stirs up memories of my college years, both the regrets and the delicate mirage-like beauty of a single drifting cloud on a summer's day over the rolling thickly wooded hardwood forests near my home. For a n American youth, what time seems more delightful than the vacation after exams? Full of hope, full of languid beauty, full of potential,
"In the name of Allah the Rahman, the Rahim !
To command is for Allah alone
The Nourisher of all communities
(He whom some call) the Rahman (and others call) Rahim Master of the Day of Judgement, Thee alone we pray for help; Guide us on the straight path; The path of those whom Thou dost bless, those who do not displease Thee, those who do not go astray"
This sura contained in the first line is repeated in all but 1 of the 114 Suras. There are 99 attributes of God, mentioned in the Qur'an but these 2 are chosen to be repeated over and over. Why? Their meaning is almost identical, for the English translations, "Beneficient" and "Merciful", respectively. Could it be that Rahman was a title used to address God by the Arabian Christians, and Rahim, a title used by the Arabian Jews? Is this a repeated call for the unity of all three religions, over and over that God is one, and there is no other god before Him? As a side note, Shingon buddhism, a Japanese branch , has particular love for Kannon, the bodhisattva of mercy, for one who particularly embodied in her life the merciful aspect of the Buddha.
Reply to John, " resolution ..under the repression" What about Divine resolution above the repression? The Holy Books of both cultures have withstood kings and criminals for more than a 1000 years. This time in Iraq may seem like an eternity for us living around or through it, but in the eye of God?????
Secondly why should we wait for the mullas, priests, bishops to lead us to the Promiced Land? If the American slaves waited for the white priests and ministers to set the example, how long would they have waited? The same applies in Iraq. If I were living there, one of the last things on my priority list would be to search for a loving and trusting mullah..
to paraphrase, "Love is light no matter where its abode, and hate is darkness no matter where it chooses its nest".
my pain and confusion? well, when I look into the eyes of the salarymen and highschool students I see on the train in the mornings (other than now during vacation ;-) I don't find myself anymore pained and confused than they are. At least, as my old professor used to say, I am aware of my pain, while others either deny or ignore it. I've often wondered is this one of the harmful aspects of Bushi? Go in Peace John, Treasure. We are all in this together.
Dawn Prayers
(O Muhammad!)
"Say He is Allah the One! Allah the Eternal Refuge of all! Begets He not, nor is he begotten! And like unto Him there can be no other!" Sura (#112) Tawhid
and from the Gita of the Upanishads
" He is all-knowing God, Lord of Emperors, Ageless, Subtler than mind's inmost subtlies. Universal Sustainer, shining Sun-like, self-luminous."
and from the Bible
Praise the Lord, O my soul!
O Lord my God, you are very great; you are clothed with splendor and majesty. He wraps himself in light as with a garment; He stretches out the heavens like a tent and lays the beams of His upper chambers on their waters. He makes the clouds his chariot and rides on the wings of the wind. He makes winds his messengers, flames of fire his servants. He set the earth on its foundations;" Psalm 104: 1-4.5
We are all on a journey. Night after night the sky is filled with clouds, and the daytime too. The gray which doesn't allow complete white or complete black, nor much of a shadow to see our own egos, gradually depresses us. We are like the short-minded Israelites of the Old Testament, again and again we fall away from our parents' beliefs. Again and again we must face tests and difficulties and be dragged under, where some drown in hopelessness. We long for the sight of the heavens, the magnificient sky filled with stars. This, we all believe is God's beauty. But really, God did not send the clouds as the Greeks believed Zeus did to help or hinder men. We are modern men. We covered up the sky with our doubts, and lack of perseverance. The operation of principles in science and religion are the same. I look for companionship in belief, encouragement; for the time for the journey has slipped by, and still I have hardly begun.
It is with utmost regret and heartfelt condolences I write of the death of Christian Peacemaker Team member Tom Fox.
Fox loved the Iraqi people and lived in the same conditions as they did in the past few years and helped set up a Muslim Peacemaker Team.
He had a blog: http://waitinginthelight.blogspot.com/
We must all condemn the killing of brother Tom Fox, a crime that is equally against the Iraqi people as it against him, his family, and humanity.
Tom Fox was a friend to the Iraqi people. He had most recently been in Falluja bringing much relief and comfort to the people there after the condemnable US assault on the city.
Please read some of his own words on his blog which he maintained before his vile kidnapping to see what a compassionate human being he was.
God help and bless his loved ones.
Dawn Prayers
I don't know what is recited from the Qur'an for someone who has "passed over the River Jordan" but I will recite something I know and love:
"Unite the hearts of Thy servants O my God and reveal to them Thy great purpose. May they follow Thy commandments and abide in Thy law, help them O God in their endeaver and grant them strength to serve . Thee. O God leave them not to themselves but guide their steps by the Light of knowlege and cheer their hearts by Thy love. Verily Thou art their Helper and their Lord. "
This prayer is not especially for Mr. Fox and the other men, women, and children who have passed over "the River Jordan", But for ourselves. We are the lost ones crying in the wilderness. Mr Fox and the others are together now, while we are scratching and clawing one another to prove one patch of dust beneath our feet is superior to another patch of dust beneath someone else's feet is superior. Mr. Fox and any others, including the terrorists, are clothed in the mercy of God by their deeds in this world, I believe. While we are still wrapped in our destinies, and doubts, and greeds, and needs to prove we are American, or we are Iraqi, or we are Japanese. We care more about those things than simple kindness towards another race, another culture, another being, who may not be as cute, or as handsome or as rich as we are. Alot of us are so concerned about justice, in this world what do we really know about justice? Do even animals kill one another over religion, or languages, or strategic power to sell their goods and plant their flags. If so then we are no better than animals. Mr. Fox and the others who have died perhaps should pray for us, we are the ones who are lost, naked and afraid.
Treasure,
In Iraqi culture, is it widely believed that if a woman looks directly in a man's eyes that she is a whore? Fayrouz at fayrouz.blogspot.com is angry about this notion on page xviii of J's book. We are wondering your opinion on this matter.
Jeff,
Read my and 24's comment on Fay's blog.
dawn prayers (for all of us)
From the Qur'an:
"Verily man tends to blaspheme In assuming that he is responsible to none When, in fact, he has to answer to his Lord!" Sura Alaq(96 ): 6-8
and from the Bible:
Moses saw that the people were running wild and that Aaron had let them get out of control and so become a laughingstock to their enemies. So he stood at the entrance of the camp and said, "Whoever is for the Lord, come to me." And all the Levites rallied to him. The he said to them, "This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: "Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor', The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about 3000 of the people died. Then Moses said, You have been set apart to the Lord today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and He has blessed you this day."
Exodus 32:25-29
Hollywood did not choose this part to film in the 10 Commandments. As I grew up a Christian, in the South, in a small town of 62 churches. I received my fair share of sermons based on the Old Testament. But generally I would say, "troubling" sections such as this one in Exodus, were left out. This isn't to say that "couragous" TV preachers don't dare to preach the "whole Bible" so that we can learn "the terrible truth".
I bring up this verse, because I have recently been reading the blogs of some of the American GIs. One of them has blogged about letters he has written and sealed, to be opened only in case of his death in Iraq. He observes that death can come suddenly out of the clear blue sky, as the saying goes, randomly. The question I have to ask, as a mere mortal, with no claims to exclusive knowledge of God's will, "Who deserves to die?" Yes, it happens, it happens deliberately every day in America and elsewhere, both legally and illegally. But "who deserves to be intentionally killed?" The Bible and the Qur'an do define circumstances. But who among the American soldiers, who among the chickenhawks in America, would define a modern set of circumstances similar to the ones I have quoted from Exodus, chapter 32? Regarding the Qur'an, I am not nearly a student of it, the Sura Alaq goes on to describe conditions that would allow for someone to be killed, obstructing a servant of God from worship. I don't doubt the clevermen's ability to twist the meanings of the Holy Books to suit their purposes. And if the gullible are left to themselves, without the abilty to judge by their own eyes, hear with their own ears, understand with their own minds, if they must rely on others to tell them the truth, especially when it comes to life and death, religion is dead for them, and they are truly dead for themselves.
beautiful post..
truth of the matter, we have come full-circle.
Dawn Prayers
From the Bible
"So Moses thought, "I will go over and see this strange sight--why the bush does not burn up. When the Lord saw that he had gone over to look,God called to him from within the bush, "Moses, Moses". And Moses said, "Here I am."...Then He said, "I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God oif Isaac and the God of Jacob." At this, Moses hid his face, because he was afraid to look at God...."So now, go. I am sending you to Pharaoh to bring my people the Israelites out of Egypt"
Exodus 3:3-4,6,10
and from the Qur'an
In the name of Allah the Rahman the Rahim (O Muhammad!) CALL! In the name of thy Lord who creates! Creates man from a lowly cell! Call, for thy Lord is most Gracious! He taught by the pen! Taught man what he would not have otherwise known! Verily, verily man tends to blaspheme In assuming that he is responsible to none When, in fact, he has to answer to his Lord."
Sura(#1) Alaq 1-8
and from the Bible
"Thus there were 14 generations in all from Abraham to David, 14 from David to the exile in Babylon, and 14 from the exile to the Christ."
Matthew 1:17
"Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John. But John tried to deter him, saying "I need to be babtized by you, and do you come to me?" Jesus replied, "Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness." Then John consented. As soon as Jesus was babtized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting on him. And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."Matthew 3:13-17
3 incredible moments for mankind. In comparing them, I will let you do so in your hearts. Go in peace through today, I will say prayers for you, I hope you will do the same for me. Thank you Treasure
Dawn Prayers
How do we learn the meaning of words? I think we learn from experiences and then we can put new ideas into the familiar memories or experiences (contexts), creating new meanings, understanding similar meanings. Especially for children of Islamic and Jewish culture and greatly true for "the Christian West". The first context for many little children is the Qur'an and Bible. This is where and how they learn the meanings of alot of words.
So I want to look at second line of the Sura Fatihah, so beautiful, such a beautiful, beautiful sura..I wonder what harm it would do every Christian child to learn this sura too. To look at how some of the English translators, my translation is 1974, have tried to put the first words of Arabic into an English context for me.
I have already mentioned in an earlier Dawn Prayer about "In the Name of Allah the Rahman the Rahim"
Beginning with the next lines:
Ross (1649) "Praised be God."
Sale (1734) "Praised be to God, Lord of all creatures:"
Rodwell (1861)"Praise be to God, Lord of the worlds."
A. Hakim (1905) "All the praises are for Allah, The Lord of all creatures."
Z. Khan (1971) "All types of perfect praise belong to Allah alone, the Lord of all the worlds.
and my translation, Amir-Ali (1974)" TO command is for Allah alone: The nourisher of all communities!"
So what can the average man's (myself) understand from looking at the English contexts for the Arabic words from these translators? First, I have to rely more on the translations that are familiar with my use of English and my experience with English (which does include Shakespeare, and the King James Bible of 1611 ).
I see "praises" the recognition of all good things, belong to God. And I see that God is Lord of moving living things "creatures", Lord of "communities" ( a scientific word that appeals to me) and finally "worlds". This last one is very interesting too. I wish I could say more about "worlds" here.
To finish, from the Bible:
"In the beginning was the Word, adn the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it." John 1:1-5
This is also very interesting, and I wish I had time to discuss it. Previously I always capitalized "he" when referring to the Christ, or God. But I am changing my mind to obey the way this translation of the Bible does it. So in this quote from John "he" refers to "the Christ".
Thank you Treasure for permitting this blog comment. We must continue to focus on the things that make us "strong, and brave, and true".
Dawn Prayers
To continue with sura Fatihah
Ross(1649) Gracious Merciful
Sale(1734) The most merciful
Rodwell(1861)The Compassionate, The Merciful
Hakim(1905)The all-providing the most merciful
Amir-Ali(1974) The RAHMAN the RAHIM
Ross: King of the Day of Judgement
Sale: The king of the day of judgement
Rodwell: King on the day of reckoning
Hakim: And the master of the day of judgement
Amir-Ali: The final ARBITER of all reckonings
I have already mentioned what Amir-Ali says about the importance of the meaning of Rahman and Rahim. This unites and brings together these 3 faiths, I wonder about Zoroaster and Buddhism. I will try to check about the titles they give to God.
The use of the word "King" to describe God. This is very interesting. As a modern I don't have much feeling for the importance of royalty, Of inheritance, of total authority without control by the people, Of course there are constitutional monarchs, and Queens, but I have to admit the importance of kingship in the progress of man's history. In a stage of our growth we needed kingship. Maybe now there is still a need in a spiritual sense. The king was always crowned by the priest in the Christian West. The religous representative gave a certain blessing together with a speech "Remember the responsibility you have to and for your people. You are responsible to God, So administer wisely."
from the Bible
#So the elders of Isreal gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah. They said to him, "You are old and your sons do not walk in your ways; now appoint a king/judge to lead us, such as all the other nations have. But when they said, "Give us a king to lead us," this displeased Samuel, so he prayed to the Lord. And the Lord told him, "Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected as their king, but me. As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. Now listen to them; but warn them solomnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will do. Samuel told all the words of the Lord to the people who were asking him for a king. He said, ...."He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots...He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves, and give them to his attendants, He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants....When that day comes you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the Lord will not answer you in that day. But the people refused to listen to Samuel."No!" they said. "We want a king over us. Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us, and to go out before us and fight our battles," (1Samuel 8:4-11,13,18-20)
Very interesting. The Qur'an has more to say about government, but that will have to wait.
Thank you Treasure. My prayers for you and all of us.
Dawn Prayers
From yesterday I was quoting the Bible's comment on "kingship" and the first king the Israelites had. Now the Qur'an is generally translated on this line as "King of the day of Judgement. There is a Shia site that says there are 10 signs Before the Day of Judgement.
From the Bible
And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. (Rev 20:11-12)
Wikipedia has good summary of the interpretation of these times according to Protestant Christianity, which I was once a part of, Catholicism, and a link to the Qur'an and Haddith references. I recall in my youth, the preacher spent alot of time on this topic, The book of Revelation and its complex sequence of scenes and their meaning used to be very familiar to me, because it was an interesting topic to study, and we were encouraged to study it. But I am writing about "now" and what I relate to. I don't think much about it. I do alot of reading and writing . This is one religous topic that hasn't interested me for a long time.
Some will say that every one goes through a "day of judgement" every day in choosing what to do that is right and avoiding the wrong decisions. This idea is first mentioned in the Upanishads, so it continues through Hinduism, Buddhism and Christianity, but in each the original idea is modified some. Simply Karma is the sum of all that an individual has done, and will do. Each person is held responsible for their actions. Our deeds are the cause of our suffering and our rewards. There is a way to escape from suffering the effects of karma, a little different for each religion mentioned.
The Day of Judgement can be understood as a time when karma is recognized and fulfilled.
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"He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; "
3-15 quote,,
I said "He" means "the Christ" and this is the traditional interpretation. But it isn't the only interpretation. "He" can simply mean God. The Christ and God are not the same. The Christ, Muhammad, Moses, Krishna, Zoroaster, these are perfect mirrors of God, not God. The sun is reflected in the mirror, but only children would point to the image in the the mirror and say there is the sun and that is the totality of the sun. It is true that the qualities of heat and light can come from the image in the mirror. But there is more to the heavenly sun than that.
Hey BT can you please post something about the petition I started... there is a post on the OB Network!
And when are you going to update???-
here's the the Olivebranch Network (http://olivebranchoptimism.net) post and two new petitions.
The “Free Iraqi Women Prisoners, Free Jill Carrol! Petition” created by Toufic Haddad
(http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/petition-sign.cgi?freejill)
- and a petition calling on the US Government and Iraqi Interior Ministry to release of a comprehensive list of all Iraqi and foreign nationals detained in Iraq...
Go see the post and sign the petition (and PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD)
Post- http://olivebranchoptimism.net/2006/03/17/jill-caroll-iraqi-detainees/
Petition-
http://www.petitiononline.com/cgi-bin/petition_html.cgi?IraqDet
Dawn Prayers,
From the Qur'an
Ross: "It is thee whom we adore; It is from thee we require help,
Sale: "Thee do we worship, and of thee do we beg assistance."
Rodwell: Thee only do we worship and to Thee do we cry for help.
Amir-Ali; Thee alone would we serve, Thee alone we pray for help.
From the Bible
"No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate one and love the other,or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money."
Matthew 5:24
From the Qur'an
Ross: "Guide us in the right way"
Sale: "Direct us in the right way"
Rodwell: "Guide Thou us on the straight path"
From the Bible
"Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own
understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct your paths." Proverbs 3:5-6
The message I get from this, is that we should trust in God rather than in ourselves, at the end of the day. By this I think we should make all the preparations and plan for all uncertain events the best that we are able, this is why we are given a brain to think with. We must acquire all the education that we can. We must pursue any scientific advancement that may solve the problems we are surrounded by. After all this, after we have done all that we can through our strengths and weaknesses, then we must put our ulitmate trust in God and consider Him to be our final keeper.
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